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I found a man willing to drive from Dayton, Ohio to Pittsburgh to see me, but I scared him off

BlueEyes1962 30 Jan 2008 | : He/She Said That?, We Never Got Past Email

An executive at a big company in Ohio emailed me. He traveled all over the world with his job and, unlike local Pittsburgh guys who didn’t think I was worth the gas money to cross a bridge, he was not fazed by a 2-hour drive to meet me. After just a few emails, he was very enthusiastic:

Hi Blue Eyes:

The more we email, the better I feel, and the more I like you. I really am glad we connected. I have been very fortunate that my gut feelings have been very true to me in my life. There was something in my gut that says you are very different than most people.

The distance between us doesn’t bother me. What is important is the time we would spend together, and the quality is not dependent on the quantity. It’s the little things, a call at night to wish the other a good night, an e-mail saying ” I miss you”, sneaking a hug, and a kiss, that is more fulfilling than sitting at opposite ends of the couch for 2 hours watching a movie.

I come home on November 24, have no plans on the 25th, Sunday, and then I am home until the 18th of January, no travel. I have 20+ days vacation and I have to burn it by the end of January, or I lose it. Hope we can meet and spend some time together.

I got a little scared off by this email, especially the 20+ days of vacation he needed to use up. He had said in a previous email that he was looking forward to spending week-ends in Pittsburgh. Since at the time I was juggling a few different men (I had been married for 20 years and wasn’t rushing onto anything) I was afraid having him camped out in Pittsburgh would cramp my style.

I emailed “Ohio Exec” that I was dating other men, and before he comes down we needed to talk on the phone. The tone of his next email was decidedly cooler. He told me he personally was too busy to date more than one woman at a time. The emails soon dried up.

I tried to reel him back in:

Are you still planning on coming down to Pittsburgh on Saturday December 1? If so I need to make plans to be free to spend some time with you.

I know you are traveling and its been hard to keep in touch lately. Please feel free to call me any time on Monday November 26. If I do not pick up, please leave a message - I will call you back.

Looking forward to your return to the USA and talking to you!

Blue Eyes
tel: 412-XXX-XXXX

But it was useless. He never emailed me back. I had lost him.

Why? We hadn’t met or even talked on the phone at that point so it wasn’t reasonable that I be exclusively dating him. Has this happened to you? Things appear to be moving right along and then the other person disappears?

8 Responses to “I found a man willing to drive from Dayton, Ohio to Pittsburgh to see me, but I scared him off”

  1. on 30 Jan 2008 at 2:07 pm Naomi

    You punctured his fantasy?

  2. on 30 Jan 2008 at 5:46 pm Scheherazade

    I was referred to your blog by one of your sources/commentators and have read through much of it. It has begun to resemble an outreach for personal advice and reassurance (as well as a “forum” for discussing the amusing quirks of the dating world). Having been single for most of my life and having gone through several periods of dating through classified ads as well as the internet personals, I will try to offer perspectives from the female point of view. Maybe some will prove useful.

    You are emerging from the relative “cocoon” of a 20-year marriage into what must appear, at first, to be a fantasyland of prospective romantic adventure and opportunity. The first few months of mainstream on-line dating for any reasonably articulate and attractive woman are sort of a honeymoon. You are the “fresh meat on the counter”, to put it bluntly, and, as such, will attract a large cadre of apparently earnest, desirable and compatible men. (In fact, being in the same geographic area and likely dating in a similar pool of educated and culturally sophisticated middle-aged men, I’ll bet you’ve been approached by most of the same guys as have myself and many of my female friends — a few of the local “MatchMen” are legendary in their relentless dating strategies).

    Eventually, as you sift through this embarrassment of riches, some disturbing trends will appear. You may wonder at first why so many paragons of masculine virtue are “available” (as in un-partnered and seemingly ripe for the plucking.) The truth is that most are NOT “available”, at least in the emotional sense. A distressing proportion of them have become serial browsers, always in pursuit of the “next best thing.” A few may be outright Casanovas, even truly malignant pathological Narcissists, but most are stretched out along a continuum ranging from benignly anxious social/sexual inepts to those who might look like excellent prospects but who are so badly damaged by uresolved issues with previous relationships that they are terrified of adult emotional intimacy and therefore prone to quickly cycling through partners to avoid commitment. Most are apt to be perpetually “available” to the next new woman on the dating site but perpetually “unavailable” to anyone (her included) over the long term. Though I’m reporting from the distaff side, I’m aware that this is also true as well of many women who advertise themselves as being allegedly “ISO” a long term partner.

    There have always been people like this in the population but the phenomenon of internet dating has, at least in my opinion, greatly accelerated and enabled this pattern of superficially and serially selecting, courting and discarding partners. The format also enables the creeping attenuation of narcissistic traits and patterns of behavior, especially among exceptionally gifted individuals (possessing high intelligence, athletic talents and/or physical beauty, etc.) who are susceptible to such tendencies anyway. Being able to obscure or inflate one’s identity online can also lead to both an unrealistic projection of self and an unrealistic idealization and objectification of one’s potential partners. Both mindframes get in the way of developing honest intimacy with another real person. (There are some very informative articles on the web about the relationship problems inflicted by various levels of narcissism — worth reading as cautionary preparation for encountering such individuals, which is inevitable in on-line dating. Not being sexist here, but it is an accepted clinical statistic that narcissism is 3 times more prevalent in men than women.)

    You will soon find two unfortunately common trends in the on-line dating world: the first is rapid focused infatuation (which your Dayton guy seems to have succumbed to) in which the dater develops premature romantic optimism about the object of his affections (often, before even meeting her face to face) and, hence, becomes inappropriately hurt and withdrawn at any sign of competition or lack of commensurate devotion on the part of the “beloved.” By telling him you were dating others you did indeed (as Naomi noted) “puncture his fantasy” of being the soulmate he had, per his “gut feelings”, miraculously discovered and to whom he had rendered himself vulnerable.

    The second “pathology” you will encounter is the more common variety of the “serialist” mentioned before. With these guys you will be subjected to a series of escalating scrutinies, based on their interior checklist of desirable features. Many will reject you on the first meeting, either overtly (by stating that you have some specific flaw, or more commonly, simply stating that they don’t feel any “chemistry”) or covertly, by being pleasant, even flirtacious, but then permanently disappearing from your radar after the first meeting.

    Others will date you from a few times to a few months, even initiating sexual intimacy or acting affectionately, before suddenly deciding that you somehow fail to satisfy some criteria and, rather abruptly, unilaterally ending the relationship. In virtually all cases, this will occur absent any discussion with you about your feelings or about prospects for the relationship. Beware the phrase “Where do you think we’re going?” This is, in virtually all cases, NOT an invitation to openly discuss mutual feelings and agree to what new level of intimacy the two of you might ascend in the relationship. In fact, the poser of this question is not really interested in your answer: he has already decided the non-negotiable answer and it is “Nowhere.” (though sometimes the poser will offer you the “consolation” prize of platonic friendship, more to ease his own conscience than to offer you solace.) You might take some solace, however, in realizing that you are likely being dismissed because you are substantial enough to pose a “threat” to his carefully guarded and overly prized emotional “self”, which he must hoard until the “perfect specimen” is located. And certainly there must be a more “perfect” specimen out there, just a lucky click away, amongst the 100’s, nay, millions of “available” women on the internet dating sites. And when he encounters Her, the heavens will open and he will fall effortless in love with Her and She with him and life will be sweet. Down deep, he may actually realize that, with a little mutual work and some genuine honesty and commitment, you could have been a great partner for him, but why settle for a “fixer-upper” when it’s so easy just to move on? He’s also likely subconsciously terrified of letting himself be vulnerable and risking being rejected so it’s easier to maintain control by rejecting you first.

    Pardon the sarcastic tone — I actually feel sorry for these guys because most of them have little or no chance of ever being really happy, i.e. becoming involved in the kind of mutually intimate and mature adult relationship they claim to desire. Most seem to either end up permanently lonely and embittered or they fall under the spell of demanding, emotionally volatile women who draw them into painfully destructive cycles of clinging and rejection (but that’s a whole other can of worms).

    Sorry this is so pessimistic. I do, indeed, know a few people who have met and mated well via on-line dating, but even they could tell you similar stories of having to endure the recurrent and sadly dysfunctional patterns I’ve related here before finding someone willing to explore an accepting and honest emotional connection with them.

    My advice: be cautious, be patient, be compassionate, be circumspect and be prepared to move on. And (hard as it may be), don’t take any rejection personally.

  3. on 01 Feb 2008 at 6:59 am BlueEyes1962

    Scheherazade

    Thanks for your thoughtful post. I shared it with a girlfriend of mine when we were out celebrating her promotion tonight. After 20+ years of marriage, “Sue” is in the process of getting divorced.

    Sue feels that there is probably a big difference between the mindset of someone who has been single most of their life, and someone who is recently free after a long marriage. The latter is not necessarily in such a rush to settle down permanently, and might even have some “serialist” tendencies themselves.

    After divorce, women tend to do better emotionally, and men tend to do worse. Our divorces have made us stronger and we relish our independence - and we are not willing to put up with any crap from would-be Casanovas, pathological Narcissists or anyone else. We’ve put up with enough crap from our exes and we’re done with that.

    When I started dating, I don’t remember signing any contracts or being given any guarantees. Dating (like employment in PA) is “at will” - either party can unilaterally end it at any time, for any reason, abruptly or not, with no more explanation than - “I don’t want to see you any more.” And my guess is it’s the woman who ends it as often as the man.

    But you are right - I’m new to all this and I have a lot to learn. Thanks for the advice and warning!

  4. on 01 Feb 2008 at 3:03 pm ADVENTUROUS

    Scheherazade’s comment was well written, but awfully pessimistic. My experience is more hopeful. I find internet dating to be a great learning experience: dating has helped me learn what women are like in all their wonderful variety, learn what characteristics are most important to me, learn more about myself, learn how people perceive me, what’s unique about me, and what are my rough edges. I’ve learned many things I hadn’t picked up during marriage.

    I don’t find internet dating to be a predictable parade of posers, players, or emotionally unavailable narcissists with a small canned set of outcomes, as Scheherazade suggests. But I haven’t lived this from the female side; maybe it’s different for women?

    My experience is that there is a huge range of women out there. Yes, there are some patterns — there are a lot of People-Magazine-reading, Steeler-watching yinzers, and almost everybody is miraculously “slim”, “athletic”, or “normal” in body type in their profiles. But when you meet them, every woman is unique. Because personalities and life experiences differ so much, and motivations differ so much — the full range from nymphomaniacs to groom-seekers to not-sure-what-they-want — it is hard to make generalities. Partly because of this variety, I have found that in almost all cases, I can learn something from each encounter. In BlueEyes’ case, maybe she learns that guys that come on too strong, like Mr. Dayton, are likely harboring unrealistic fantasies, for example.

    So my experience is not that there are a lot of women following a script or playing a game, but rather that they are often just as curious, just as confused, just as vulnerable, just as overwhelmed by the dating process as me.

    Unless your standards are really low, very few “connections” have the potential to evolve into an LTR. If you expect dating to be easy, you’ve been watching too many eHarmony commercials. The internet dating companies aren’t going to tell you this, but my personal experience is that you can expect to go on dates with something like 50 or 100 people before you find Mr. or Ms. Right. It’s not an easy process, but at least it’s fun, much of the time.

  5. on 01 Feb 2008 at 5:59 pm Scheherazade

    Adventurous,

    Wow, to admit to personally dating “50 to 100 women” as an attempted rebuttal to a post on male “serial daters.” What time frame are we talking here? Is this like a hobby for you? Either there weren’t a lot of repeat dates (which would suggest you’re not looking too deeply at anyone) or you’re a pretty busy boy. Some of us have to work for a living.

    A question: how many of the 49 to 99 “Ms. Wrongs” felt that your dating and evidently rejecting them was “fun, much of the time”? Though I’m sure there were many mutual rejections and some who found you not up to their own expectations, those high numbers seem to suggest that you’re either awfully indiscriminate in your choice of women to date or extremely overpicky in your requirements for “Ms. Right” (speaking of “unrealistic fantasies”). Or maybe unwilling to really get involved with anyone? Do you suppose you might have broken any of those 49 to 99 hearts? Or does that not matter to you? How much effort did you honestly put into making any of those many “connections” long term? You stress what you’ve “learned” about yourself and what you supposedly want. What have the women you’ve dated learned from you during your self-proclaimed educational journey through their ranks?

    In the end, has this methodical process of elimination finally landed you the ultimate “Ms. Right”? Such that you would confidently recommend to all of us a “numbers game” of dating “50 to 100″ people? Or have there been several “Ms. Rights” but none of them lasted for some reason? No matter — plenty more where they came from, right?

    I rest my case.

    S.

  6. on 02 Feb 2008 at 4:36 pm Resigned

    Over the years, I tried multiple dating sites, corresponded via email w/hundreds, IM’d many, spoke on the phone to at least 45 men, and met at least 30 live, so I speak with some experience.

    I’ve really lost all interest in this way of meeting men. I did online dating for 5 years, and found it a most unnatural and weird way to meet a mate - no point of reference for the any guy you meet online - as far as I am concerned it’s a crap shoot. I was not a winner.

    I don’t ever see me going back. With the time investment, it became like a job, very mechanical, and became the same old as far as replies, letdowns and ‘dates’. A lot of energy w/no fruits. I would never discourage anyone from venturing down this road, you may be a lucky winner. I know several couples personally that have met this way who now are life partners.

    Resigned

  7. on 03 Feb 2008 at 8:24 am treefrog

    The dating process takes patience and persistence. I don’t find it that fun, though. It’s hard work! Often frustrating! You have to email a lot of women to get one reply, and most of those don’t lead anywhere: the woman insists on 6′4″+, or she’s not ready for commitment, or she’s a fundamentalist Christian, or she has four teenage sons who all play ice hockey, or she stops emailing inexplicably … If you get a wink, a lot of the time it’s a Russian bride scammer or a West Virginia hick. When you find a woman worth meeting, sometimes she reminds you of your ex so much it sends chills down your spine, other times she’s just plain psycho.

    I’m not sure how many dates it takes to meet your “soulmate”. What constitutes a date, anyway? Does meeting for coffee count? Some women say it’s only a date if the man pays. Weird definition. You have to pace your dating. Remember Cutie (Jan 5 blog) who claimed to date 20 guys a week? That would drive anyone crazy.

  8. on 29 Mar 2008 at 6:58 pm NetDatingPro

    I’ve had some experiences like this Blue Eyes-men that seem so engaged initially and for some reason or another quickly fall off the planet (maybe they all go to the same place). But I have had the reverse happen as well. A few months ago I had a man from Atlanta write me and by the second e-mail came nothing short of professing his love to me, saying he would fly up here, blah blah blah… even after I had told him I wasn’t interested. It frightened me a little (because I have been stalked before- nothing that escalated to a criminal stage but knowing the guy, certainly could have) so I hid my profile for a while. Don’t know if other women have had that experience.

    I do agree with Resigned about it feeling a little mechanical, and considering I’m looking for a never married, no children, professional with a solvent job (like me), the only men writing me have been married, have children, might be unemployed or the like, I’m taking a break. It appears none of the men read the “her ideal match” section. It is a lot of hard work like treefrog says. You do have to pace yourself-in the past dating 2 guys at the same time was about as much as I could handle although I might be talking to 2 or 3 more at the same time. I could never do what Cutie mentions, dating 20 a week-my job does not afford me time to do that!

    So in total I’ve probably met with somewhere between 50 and 75 men, and corresponded in short fashion with maybe 50 more, but that is spread over a decade. But I really have no other way to meet men with 12-16 hour days and lot of travel. I have tried It’s Just Lunch which was disappointing to say the least even apart from the fact that it was pricey. I can’t even use e-Harmony because they rejected me (I’m one out of every 5 people they can’t match), multiple specialty websites, set ups by family, friends and even by people I don’t know well. I have also been to 40-50 weddings (about 3-5 a year, I have a lot of friends) so I don’t believe that you can meet people at weddings, I’ve tried. I’ve also been speed dating, joined different singles groups so no one can say that I haven’t been trying. I have reasons to be a little choosy but I think all women should have some reasons to be choosy. I used to think it was me that was the problem and looking at my stats, I guess most would say that. But my friends just recently described me as “lovely, compassionate, outgoing” (one of those e-mail forwards) so I would think those would be desirable qualities. I could never be with someone I didn’t respect or admire and wasn’t attracted to in the first place-that would make for a relationship without passion in my opinion which is never a good thing.

    I am taking a break from this method, but if anyone else has any winning ideas, I’ll obviously try them, since I’ve tried everything else. Online dating is obviously the best way to meet a large amount of people. I realize this was a really rambling post but I’ve been burned several times in a short period of time so I’ve pretty much lost all my confidence (of which I actually had a lot). It felt good to write this all down!

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Online Dating: What Do You Do When the Photos Don’t Match Reality?

BlueEyes1962 27 Jan 2008 | : Not As Advertised, Strange First Dates

A while back I had a Sunday morning first date at Starbucks on the Southside. I won’t use his real handle; let’s call the guy … “Arrogant.” I dressed nicely and wore make-up, but he showed up in a ratty old t-shirt and baggy cargos, and looked like he had just crawled out of bed.

He was also a good 50 lbs heavier than his photograph!

He was very aggressive - telling me he was the best thing on match.com and that he had dated many women through the site. He told me some of the stories - and many were indeed hilarious - including a story about a thirty-something woman whose mother had gone on the date with them, and then gave him a bag of tomatoes at the end of the evening. I asked him why he put up with that and he said it was because she (the daughter, not the mother) was so hot.

He asked me directly if I was interested in him. I told him “actually, no, you’re too heavy for me”.

Normally I would not be so brutally honest, but his arrogance had offended me, and I felt it was deceptive to post a photo that did not match reality. He had talked about the physical characteristics of the women he had dated, so I figured his physique was fair game.

For the blog, I wrote him to ask if I could share his stories. It wasn’t really smart, but I guess I figured my comment about his weight wouldn’t have really bothered a guy who knew he was God’s gift to women.This is his answer:

Yes, BlueEyes I remember you. How could I forget the only person since 4th grade whose called me fat? But if that wasn’t embarrassing enough to you, you didn’t relent when I attributed the weight gain to surgery and an unspoken complication requiring me to take medication whose side effects include weight gain and fatigue - not a good recipe for maintaining a healthy weight.

Unfortunately for me you left me with no ammunition when formulating a comeback. Or perhaps I simply chose to invoke “do unto others.”

And now you have the temerity to ask to mine my experiences for your gain? You might want to take a cue from your self-reported affinity to “learn new things” and learn the golden rule.

I felt bad - I had really offended him. He was a jerk, but I don’t like to make enemies - not in this small town. Who knows when I might come across him again in another social or professional setting?

What have you done when the photo did not match the reality? Were you honest or did you mutter a face-saving line and slink away?

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  1. on 28 Jan 2008 at 8:31 am Jay

    The Case of the Blunt Blue Eyes. Didn’t know you had it in you. Seriously, even though this is a culture where we pretty much say things up front and don’t do much indirect communication, we’re pretty thin-skinned where physical appearance is concerned.

    It could also have been a case of Arrogant’s being able to dish it out, but not take it.

  2. on 06 Jun 2008 at 4:34 pm NetDatingPro

    I have had that experience a few times, but usually there is some other redeeming quality(ies) the person might possess that will at least allow me to see the date through. I try to get over the lack of physical attraction on the first date if I can if the person seems really nice but this guy sounds like he got a taste of his own medicine.

  3. on 08 Jul 2009 at 7:40 pm Chris

    I met a man online and we decided to meet for dinner at Outback. He came in the door and he recognized me first. He seemed a little concerned that I hadn’t recognized him, but when I blurted out, “you look WAY better than your picture!” he was grinning ear to ear.

    He was a very nice guy, too, but unfortunately not my type. But I was sure glad he looked BETTER than the photo, not the other way around!

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Online Dating Profiles: Some women’s thoughts on their bodies and “What is sexy in a partner?”

BlueEyes1962 25 Jan 2008 | : Bizarre Profiles

Here are some women’s words (taken from different online dating profiles) about their bodies and thoughts on “what is sexy?” that caught the eye of ADVENTUROUS:

Describe your personality and physique.
34-24-36

If you could change one thing about yourself, what would it be?
Of course every woman says there figure I guess my chest.

Describe your personality and physique.
I’m curvy. I’m totally addicted to working out. I have very nice boobs and nice plump butt but I also have a waistline.

What do you find “SEXY” in a partner?
I am a ass woman. I love also a hairy chest I would have to say there chest.

What do you find “SEXY” in a partner?
I love to watch a man walk away that has a cute butt– what can I say, I’m a butt girl.

What do you find “SEXY” in a partner?
Muscles are ok as long as they are not buldging! YUCK!

What do you find “SEXY” in a partner?
no colored hair please! keep the pierced nipples or scrotum…i might take to an ear piercing but that’s about it.

What do you find “SEXY” in a partner?
I only do not have caress and love, I wait for prince on a white horse and hen I shall give all caress and fire love.

my ethnicity:
Pretty Italian, Polish, desent, shoulder length blonde hair, nice legs, butt and breasts.

favorite things:
I love to suck on great big lollypops. They just feel like so much fun on my tongue.

favorite things:
tight butts.

About Me:
Wild and crazy gal looking for a wild and crazy guy. Enjoys biking, horseback riding, and outdoor sports of any kind. Needs a man who enjoys life to the fullest. Also, helps to be well hung.

What do you think?

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  1. on 26 Jan 2008 at 3:29 pm Allemon

    Wow, these women are real animals! Do most women think like that?

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A Happy Ending: “I found Mr. Right, and I’ll now be a Mrs. Right”

BlueEyes1962 24 Jan 2008 | : Happy Endings

Happy endings do happen. Here’s a message from a 40-year old woman in Ohio who found love on Match.com:

Match provides an almost infinite pool of men that I would have never met…both good and bad. I have learned that to find love I had to be patient, a risk taker, have faith and be open to love.

I fell for a man who when he made mistakes knew how to say he was sorry. He is not perfect but was vulnerable enough to let me see that he wasn’t perfect. He genuinely loved children, which was my first on the criteria list and knows how to treat me like the lady I am…far beyond the first few dates.

He was tenacious and when we had problems, he cared enough to try to remedy them. He was honest about his job, marital status, income, interests and most importantly honest about what he wanted in a woman and in a relationship (so many of you have unrealistic expectations) He wasn’t pushy in any sense and let me take my time in the relationship.

Those of you who are interested in match as a site to solicit sex (and you are out there), I believe there are other sites that would be more conducive to your needs…just my opinion, but I don’t think Match.com markets itself in that direction.

This site as many of you have found can enhance the ego when you are down, boost the self-esteem when needed but ultimately must be the crutch that must be let go.

I was a personal trainer, and I always said that I have done my job when my clients no longer needed me and sometimes it was my job to let them know just that.

To all of you that have been honest and gentlemanly, I say thanks to you for making my dating and entry back into the single life a rewarding experience. I have made a few good friendships from this site from dates that weren’t love matches but enticing enough to provide something else very important: friendship. You are the reason that I refer Match.com to friends who are looking for love or something as simple as a platform or launching pad back into the dating world.

It is always prudent to be careful when using this site because much like the traditional dating scene, there are unscrupulous people.

To those of you who have lied about everything from age, weight, marital status and job to children… shame on you. You will never find what you are looking for if you are not honest, and as many of you have already found out, the truth does eventually surface…I promise you it does.

My advice to those of you that aren’t honest is this: Match.com is growing by leaps and bounds and dating online no longer ensures your anonymity even when you don’t provide a picture if you are telling even 1/2 the truth. Everyone seems to want to take a look at match.com, and it is no longer taboo to do so.

Online dating is making its way into the acceptable world of mainstream dating. I met some grandmothers that have used this site…amazing! I could write a very interesting book on my experiences and those that my friends have shared.

For those of you who were bothered by the fact that I didn’t work while a full-time grad student raising three children, maybe I’ll publish the book, get rich and be on Dr. Phil. He and I have a match connection.

To the love seekers, learn to ask very pointed questions up front and don’t be timid or embarrassed about finding out what you need from someone. This is an excellent forum to do so.

I have friends and loved ones that have used this site to further enhance their lives, some of which have ended in marriage.

To my friends and those hopeful about love. Take care and have some faith.

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  1. on 08 May 2008 at 12:38 pm Anonymous

    Thanks for this great post. It’s a very realistic look at online dating and you seem to have a great attitude. I feel the same way. I’ve met some smart, very attractive, and gentlemanly men who were honest and with whom I had fun even if it didn’t last. There are quality men out there, just apparently none that think I’m girlfriend material. Just have to keep trying!

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Pittsburgh Writing Coach’s Advice for Online Dating Profiles: “Lose the clichés”

BlueEyes1962 22 Jan 2008 | : Tips and Advice

Jay Speyerer, of Legacy Road Communications (www.legacyroad.net),  has been a speaker and an educator for nearly 30 years, successfully helping people achieve their goals in memoir writing, business communication, cross-cultural issues, and presentation skills.  He has this advice to offer those looking for love online:

“I love laughing in the rain while riding my Harley on the beach in my tuxedo and jeans. I don’t like listening to any kind of music except rap while I’m curled up on the couch watching a DVD and reading the New York Times and National Review. I want live my past, present, and future lives to the fullest with my soul mate.”

There’s a lot of that kind of piffle on Match.com from otherwise literate and intelligent people. Of course, there are a lot of illiterate and unintelligent folks on there too, but that’s not you or you wouldn’t be reading Blue Eyes’ blog.

I think I know what the problem is: people are doing their homework but they’re accepting the wrong kind of examples. Here’s what to do: look at the profiles of your competition to see what they’re writing. See what phrases pop up again and again, and then don’t use them.

Why? Because they’re clichés. You enjoy fine dining? Wow, so do I! You don’t want someone with baggage? Wow, neither do I. You want to live life to the fullest? Wow, so do– Wait a minute. What does that mean?

Be clear. Avoid writing something just because someone else did. Maybe I’m dense, but I just don’t know what “living life to the fullest” means. I’m sure it means something to the people writing it, but it bears further explanation. Parasailing? Bungee jumping? Riding your horse? Time with family and friends? Provide examples.

Be yourself. Many of us get advice from our friends. That’s okay, but don’t copy what they write and sacrifice your originality, your uniqueness. This might be hard to believe, but people actually steal other people’s profiles. They lack imagination, so they appropriate another profile. I once talked to a woman whose profile was stolen by a man. And he was straight.

Be specific. Don’t just tell us you like to travel, tell us where you want to go. Don’t just say you like music, tell us who you like. Don’t just say you like to read. Tell us author and genre. Things like that are important to your reader because it gives them a more complete picture of you.

Be honest. I’m a professional writer, and because of that, many women have said I intimidate them. Good to know. Better I find it out now rather than later. Don’t write something that isn’t you and don’t show something that isn’t you any more. Use a current picture. It might be interesting to see what you looked like in high school, but if you’re 50, give us a current look as well.

Some people complain about pictures of pets, but pet pics are okay in my book. I’m an animal person myself and I use a shot of my pets. One shot. But photos of humans should vastly outnumber those of your four-legged or winged housemates.

And finally… Girls, more pictures of you and fewer travel pictures where you’re so small we can’t see you. Guys, put your shirt on and lose the ball cap.

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  1. on 22 Jan 2008 at 3:07 pm Elizabeth

    Lose the animal pictures, put your shirts on, men, I don’t care what type of car you drive, so don’t take photos with it, and for goodness sake…comb the hair! Also, don’t tell me you know how to ‘create romance in a relationship’ when you’ve been divorced a few times.

  2. on 22 Jan 2008 at 5:21 pm Naomi

    I love moonlit walks through the landfill, and sweltering walks on the beach in July. I like to share a bottle of wine curled up in front of the fireplace; we’d use a few blankets because my fireplace doesn’t work. But I don’t cuddle much; skin contact usually creeps me out. Wow, this wine is pretty vinegary, isn’t it? I go to church about once a month but I should go less often; it’s really a waste (except for the snacks). I don’t like walking; never have. I gained 10 pounds last year. My favorite music is rap - love to crank it! I hate sitcoms, don’t care for sports. My match: a man that makes everybody recoil when he enters a room. Our eyes meet and my skin begins to crawl. You might not want to write me.

  3. on 22 Jan 2008 at 5:56 pm ADVENTUROUS

    A lot of women use the form “I’m just as comfortable in a X as I am in a Y”. It’s so common! I guess they’re trying to express their flexibility. But if they want to stand out from the crowd, they should avoid that line!

    Examples, each from a different profile:

    I am just as comfortable in jeans and a t-shirt drinking a cold beer as I am in a black dress and heels sipping martinis in NYC.
    I’m comfy in a great pair of jeans, or a little black dress…from skiing to a black tie event.
    I am comfortable in a pair of jeans or in a little black dress.
    I am as comfortable wearing a flannel shirt and driving an open-top Wrangler as I am in heels, pearls and a little black dress at the symphony.
    I am as comfortable in jeans as I am in an evening gown.
    I am just as comfortable in jeans as I am in a full length gown.
    I am equally comfortable at a back yard barbeque as I am at a $500 a plate charity fundraiser.
    I equally enjoy black tie benefits and Steeler/Pitt football games.
    I’m as comfortable in my Penn State sweatshirt as I am in pearls and high heels.
    I’m just as comfy in sweats as I am in a dress.
    I enjoy getting dressed up for a night on the town as well as wearing jeans, getting muddy, and going for a quad ride.

    Help! Adrift in a sea of conformity! But then, once in a blue moon, a poet or two comes along:

    I’m as comfortable at Heinz Hall as I am at Heinz Field.
    I’m just as comfortable covered in silk as I am covered in mud.
    My love for adventure has taken me from fishing in the Amazon to dressing up for Salsa dancing in Rio. In other words, I am just as comfortable handling a fishnet as I am wearing them!

    A clever double entendre doesn’t hurt, either:

    So I have been lucky to straddle the poles of feminine deportment. I can tune your vintage sportscar and be ready for a white tie dinner less than an hour later.

  4. on 22 Jan 2008 at 7:50 pm Nancy Van Iderstine

    So true!!! I think these profiles tell a l-o-t about our psychological health or lack thereof. And I’m floored at the number of people who put in their profile, for the entire world to read, something like: Let me cook YOU a fabulous meal, fly YOU to Paris and rub YOUR shoulders in the morning. (Capitalization added for effect). Imagine who’s reading all this? Really? What if I’m toothless in Seattle with a gin bottle in one hand and a spitoon in the other? YOU’RE going to rub MY shoulders in the morning? How’d I get so lucky? :-)

  5. on 06 Jun 2008 at 4:58 pm NetDatingPro

    Speaking of men without their shirts on, I had one fellow continually send me a picture of just his chest-I was a little offended because I don’t move that fast -that was before we even started any sort of e-mail relationship (let alone meeting him). I guess he wanted to prove that he was ripped. I tried playing it off with a joke to get him to stop but he didn’t so I did. What planet do these men come from??!!

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CHARMING to Young Hopeful: “Give me your mother’s # so I can tell her what you’re up to”

BlueEyes1962 18 Jan 2008 | : We Never Got Past Email

I asked “Charming,” the 50 year-old woman who I quoted in Know any Unavailable, Dishonest, Self-Centered Men in Pittsburgh for CHARMING? to expand on the experiences that lead to this statement: “If you’re young enough to be my son I’ve been enjoying all those brave winks and e-mails. Keep em coming! Growl.”

Here’s her reply:

Been on Match a month and a half. In the first 2 weeks I had 5 winks from young men under 35.

Amused — I winked back.

Three brave souls went as far to follow up with e-mail, which I unfortunately deleted. Basically, they said something very similar:
“You’re really hot. (news 2 me!) Do you go for younger men?”

My reply to each:
“Well, Bad BOY I will never shoot a MAN for trying, and I’m flattered, but flattery will not get you anywhere in my case. Thanks anyway, but you are WAY too young for me!!! Better luck elsewhere.”

Only one die-hard 25-year-old wrote back after that:
“Do you like bad boys? I don’t have any problem with our age difference. Why should you? Age is just a number.”

That’s when I had answered:
“Give me your mother’s number so I can tell her what you’re up to”

No reply.

LOL

Having learned, now I just ignore them.

I’m still very intrigued by the younger guy - older woman thing. Are young women just too much work? Are they afraid of marriage o and children and a women well past menopause is appealing? Are older women perceived as being more desperate an thus easier? I just don’t get it. Any ideas?

Any men out there who date older women who could help me figure this out?

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39-year-old Man’s rant to older Woman: “Good for you, stick with the old dudes”

BlueEyes1962 16 Jan 2008 | : We Never Got Past Email

“Foxy” is an athletic 53-year-old divorced Fox Chapel mom who looks 35. Her online dating profile states she is seeking a 50 - 60 year old match.

“Doctor38″ (39-year-old man - Pittsburgh, PA - Seeks women 30-55) contacted her. She emailed him “Thank you for the interest, but I don’t want to date younger men.”

He sent the following reply:

Good for you, stick with the old dudes who have custody of their kids on the weekends and whose exwifes are still hanging around, making things uncomfortable for you, not to mention those teenage kids he’s got who don’t even like their own mother and are going to find it rather hard to deal with daddy’s new girlfriend who is taking up all of his free time.

And well, the holidays, well, they will tend to be awkward, mostly because his kids will hate you, and don’t forget those family vacations, with his kids, you know the ones, they are the little angels who will be staring daggers at you, while you sip you pina colada at the poolside restaurant at lunchtime, wondering how you ever thought it was a good idea to bring children on what he had told you was going to be a very romantic and fun beach vacation.

Oh and lets not forget the lack of sex drive he possesses, mostly because he’s been playing golf all day and then trying to satiate his own guilt as a father by telling the little monsters all about the next fun group hug you’ll all be going on

Yeah, I guess a doctor, with no kids, 5 weeks of vacation a year, who cooks and likes to openly express his feeling to the woman he adores, and is still interested in a passionate and physical relationship, sounds like a bad idea………..good for you, your mom did a good job……..

Foxy told me, “I am so mad at this a_ _ hole. I’m going to ream him a new one. But, what could I expect from some liberal, never been married doctor?”

What should Foxy do? How would you reply to him? Send in your suggestions (anonymously) by clicking on “comment” below.

10 Responses to “39-year-old Man’s rant to older Woman: “Good for you, stick with the old dudes””

  1. on 16 Jan 2008 at 3:58 pm Anonymous

    can we really explain all the assholes in the world???im a 54 yr old man that dates…my kids are grown..and i seem to be doing ok after hours…if dr dimwit with no life ,other than his own egotistical self centered cant even get a date with an older woman and then blames everybody for it loser is having troubles….well GOOD…i like my chances even more with fools like him out there…i do take issue with the “liberal”label allocated to this idiot,however…

  2. on 16 Jan 2008 at 4:34 pm speakeasy

    It’s the anonymity factor at work again. People feel they can say anything they please because they’re not face-to-face with the other person.

    As to the reply: don’t waste your time. If you answer, he’ll like it.

  3. on 16 Jan 2008 at 4:53 pm Anonymous

    I think it’s shortman syndrome…or maybe short everything syndrome.

  4. on 16 Jan 2008 at 6:57 pm Writer

    I took a fun break from writing a proposal to think about your question! Here’s my theory: I think younger guys who pursue older women are looking for a woman who has resolved her own life issues, and is at a stage where she’s able and willing to be a superb listener for them. These relationships usually end up being more about the guy than the woman. If it becomes more about the woman, they usually split.

    Re: the doc—-he has such huge anger issues and self-esteem issues, I’d run in the other direction!

  5. on 16 Jan 2008 at 10:43 pm Betty Sue

    Look out for someone on Match named r——e, he’s 36-38, forget. lol!

    I have been pursued by younger men, prob for a variety of reasons…. diff things motivate diff men and women, but my exp w/younger men is generally too immature and not the greatest fit.

    someone closest to your age (give or take 5 yrs either way), is usually most suited for obvious reasons.

    Since my divorce tho, I have only dated younger men, never searched for it, just happened. I’ve had good and bad experiences for a variety of reasons.

    At this point, after everything said or done, I’d find someone closest to my age, more in common and the chances of staying together over the long haul are much greater. ………. my 2 cents worth.

  6. on 17 Jan 2008 at 3:28 am Resigned

    Any man/doctor who takes to time to reply like he did (rant) and the length that that he did, has WAY too much time on his hands, relies on Internet dating too much, doesn’t roll w/the punches, takes himself too seriously and this type of dating service way too seriously.

    He’s probably been online surf-dating for a good while.

    After 7 yrs worth (on and off) of ‘looking’ for a man through Internet dating services, (how bout a nice evening out that would include a second date) via the computer screen, I’d summarize it like this - it’s al ot of work, interviewing, reaching out, flying blind and living on the hope that you might be the fortunate one to meet someone that you hit it off with.

    I know of 8 relationships in my friendship circle where people met their mates that way. I did not have that good fortune.

    I am no longer pro-actively looking for a mate that way, but I am always amused to hear all the stories, which by the way, are mostly similar.

  7. on 17 Jan 2008 at 3:41 am Anonymous

    Doctor38 does not deal with rejection too well.

  8. on 17 Jan 2008 at 11:42 pm Fred Jr

    Anonymous said “I think it’s shortman syndrome”. But a woman friend of mine who has dated a wide variety of men swears that the tall ones are typically the assholes: they’re cockier, less honest, more selfish, and more controlling, while shorter men are kinder, more generous, and easier to get along with. She figured that the short ones have to work harder to get ahead in the world, the same way beautiful women can get away with being bitches more easily than ordinary-looking women.

  9. on 22 Jan 2008 at 3:52 am bctsurgeon

    I actually think that was a funny answer… And you know what, DOctor38 is quite right. Foxy should not be mad, but thankfull to the guy for saying the truth that nobody else have the guts to say. Maybe he does have the short man syndrome, or maybe he does have problems with rejection (who doesn’t?), but Foxy must have her own problems. After all if she was so secure of her choices, why getting so anoyed over an answer from a stranger?????

  10. on 06 Jun 2008 at 5:08 pm NetDatingPro

    I’m loving this thread. I’ve had the flip side happen-much older men write me who think they can whisk me away on a boat to some far-off isle. One man, despite my courteous and honest answer of pointing out the age difference(almost 20 years) and a few other things which would have been glaring incompatibilities proceeded to list me 10 statistics on dating in the millenium and that I was ruling out way too many men and would end up alone. Nice, huh? I appreciate the fact these men are trying to give me advice (note the sarcasm).

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Maybe Careful Reading of Online Dating Profiles Can’t Weed Out all the Pittsburgh Psychos

BlueEyes1962 13 Jan 2008 | : We Never Got Past Email

PittProf is fussy about spelling errors (see How Honest Should You Be?) while Treefrog warns about weeding out the psychos (see Dating Strategies - What Works?) From a story that PittProf shared with me, it appears that he can’t see the forest for the trees (or can’t see the psychos for the apostrophes).

Sophie caught PittProf’s bespectacled eye with one paragraph in her profile:

favorite hot spots:
I would take you for a long drive along the Mon to trespass abandoned steel
mills, discover outrageous biker bars, & and explore other cultural
treasures. My favorite hot movie - Secretary.

Sophie was also scholarly - she did research for a Pittsburgh company on the sociology of dating. And she could spell. She sounded interesting and different, and they went on several dates, and things started to heat up. But then PittProf (AKA “Charles”) began to have second thoughts, and he put on the brakes some. The emails below tell the story from there.

From: Sophie
Date: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:42 PM
To: Charles
Subject: Touching Base

Charles -
I don’t think we are a good match after all.
The best of luck in your search!
Sophie
———-
From: Charles
Date: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:51 PM
To: Sophie
Subject: RE: Touching Base

This time I get to ask: what makes you say that?
(I’m not planning to argue about it; just curious
)
———-
From: Sophie
Date: Sunday, November 12, 2006 3:06 PM
To: Charles
Subject: RE: Touching Base

Ahh - this is a tough one, but here we go. For one, I somehow had the feeling that something changed since the last time we met - perhaps because you met someone you are more interested in. Then - I noticed that you showed a somewhat limited interest in me - as a person, by, for example, not asking more questions about my background etc. Three - a bit of a lack of generosity - it would have been nice to be treated to a soup, rather than asking me to chip in, given that your income is probably much higher than mine.

Hope this is not too blunt - but I am usually very straightforward, especially when people ask.

It really was very nice to have met you – and I am not angry or anything like that. I just honestly think we may not be a good match.

All the best,
Sophie

Back to my paper.

Charles let a couple days pass before responding

From: Charles
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:14 PM
To: Sophie
Subject: thoughts

I still like you and I think I’d enjoy staying in touch via email, e.g. I could send you Pittsburgh political news, if you want, and perhaps you could keep me up-to-date on your dating research :-)?

How’s the paper?
———-
From: Sophie
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:05 PM
To: Charles
Subject: RE: thoughts

PAPER IS STILL NOT DONE – HAVEN’T HAD A MELTDOWN LIKE THIS SINCE MY LAST GRANT SUBMISSION BUT AM DETERMINED TO GET IT OUT BY 12:30PM TOMORROW. MAJOR TORTURE. DO STAY IN TOUCH –!
———-
From: Charles
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:22 PM
To: Sophie
Subject: paper

Good luck with the paper
———-
From: Sophie
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:24 PM
To: Charles
Subject: RE: paper

What about our relationship?
———-
From: Charles
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:36 PM
To: Sophie
Subject: RE: paper

Well, it’s over — the romantic part, anyway — as far as I’m
concerned.

We can be friends and keep in touch, as I suggested, however.
———-
From: Sophie
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:10 PM
To: Charles
Subject: RE: paper

Fuck you!
———-
From: Sophie
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:14 PM
To: Charles
Subject: RE: paper

Please do not contact me again.
———-
From: Sophie
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:27 PM
To: Charles
Subject: RE: paper

Do not contact me again please!!!!
———-
From: Sophie
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:46 PM
To: Charles
Subject: FW: You are a jerk!
>From: Sophie
>Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:29 PM
>To: Sophie
>Subject: You are a jerk!
———-
From: Sophie
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:55 PM
To: Charles
Subject: RE: You are a jerk!

Please do not contact me again!!!
———-
From: Sophie
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:00 PM
To: Charles
Subject: FW: You are a jerk!
>From: Sophie
>Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:52 PM
>To: Sophie
>Subject: RE: You are a jerk!

Really - do not ever contact me again.
———-
From: Sophie
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:01 PM
To: Sophie; Charles
Subject: RE: You are a jerk!
———-
From: Sophie
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:04 PM
To: Charles
Subject: RE: paper
Importance: High
Do not contact me again please!!!!
———-
From: Sophie
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:13 PM
To: Charles
Subject: You are out - please delete from your e-mail list
———-
From: Sophie
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:32 PM
To: Charles
Subject: RE: You are out - please delete from your e-mail list

Do not contact me again please!!!!
———-
From: Sophie
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:50 PM
To: Charles
Subject: fuck you

For two days, the emails stopped. Then Charles got one more.

From: Sophie
Date: Thu, November 16, 2006 6:57 PM
To: Charles
Subject: My deepest apologies!!!

Charles -

I am feeling horribly ashamed - sorry, sorry, sorry!!! Terrible day working on the paper and other things gong on.

You’re behavior throughout all of this was great - I think our decision was right and I am certain that you will end up finding someone who is good for you.

Please - do accept my apologies.

Sophie

Charles never emailed her after that, lest the floodgates open again. Not even to point out that she’d misspelled “your”.

I wonder how her paper came out.

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  1. on 14 Jan 2008 at 2:24 pm Cyndi

    Wow, Sophie has a few screws loose! It’s like she was arguing with herself. Tnx for sharing that, Pittprof!

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Part 2: Middle-Aged Pittsburgh Men Beware: The Heartdetectives Online Dating Scam

BlueEyes1962 11 Jan 2008 | : Not As Advertised, Scams

Bill, a friend from Bethel Park,  alerted me to this online dating scam. He received winks from an attractive woman on match.com telling him to look for her on another site (see Middle-Aged Men Beware Part 1.) He was curious and went to the site, but did not create a profile. He still got tons of winks and emails from women there. He did a bit of research and found the following thread: Subject: Scam alert….avoid Heartdetectives.com

By: victim of love
Possibly every one knows about this scam except me. You can create a free profile then they send fake responses to your mailbox. Naturally to read these teasers you have to pay a fee to join. Once the fee is paid all correspondence ceases and your left feeling like a chump. Please BEWARE of Heartdetectives.com it is a total sham.

By: Jonathan
These scammers are posting bogus profiles on Match.com — referring you to write to them at “meet fun singles,” which is “meetfunsingles.com”, a sister site to Heartdetectives. I’m reporting them to Match.com customer services as I come across them, or when they allegedly “wink” at me. These scammers are evil

By: Foolish Heart
Ah, poop. I had a feeling I’d been had. Wish I’d found this site earlier… but the first post about this scam occured the day I signed up for it. I’m a very good computer guru, and I got readily had by this one. Same scenario as the first posting, but I was also on another site at the time when I was contacted by another interested person… who mentioned that they use “Seek True Love.” (Same site; different name.) I probably wouldn’t have touched this site with a 10 foot cattle prod, except that “someone” else had recommended it. I’m such a fool for love.

By: Tainted
Yea, they suck for sure. I was on LoveAccess, which isn’t bad, and this chick emailed me. Should have seen it coming cuz the email said “I’m also on heartdetectives so try me there is this doesn’t work out” duh, what a dupe. Anyway, plentyoffish.com is a kickass site, and totally free. That’s where I’m staying from now on, in the free zone. Between the russain scams and the date site scams, this is starting to feel like real dating.

By: elves
Likewise scammed, tempted beyond reason, but hesitated long enough to find this site. Match caught the embedded message & deleted that part of it today, several days later. I should have known something was up when that wink appeared from a beautiful younger woman, whose address on Match changed within the week to out-of-state.By: MeI just got a couple of emails from Heart Detectives saying I had a flirt and a new email, the only thing is that I have never created a profile on this site. I requested my user ID and password and what they sent me is an ID and password I use. Anyone know what other sites they affiliated with? The only place I use that ID and password is on yahoo. Anyone have any ideas?

By: RYRYI
just recieved an email from a girl, and I mean a good looking girl with all the same interests as me….blew me away. She said…if you dont find me here I’m always at meet funsingles.com. I almost took the bait but found this site at the same time I was trying to sign up for that site. It wouldn’t take any of my email addresses for the “free membership”. I was thinking still…who the hell is using my company emails for dating sites? then i read these complaints and it all makes sense. STAY AWAY FROM THESE FUCKERS

By: StreetRodder75
Ya… I had a membership there because I had about 12 emails waiting for me, and a few people emailed me more than once… I joined up, replied and never heard anything from anyone. Yet a week after replying, I got notifications that the same people are winking me…Why would people send me 2 emails, not reply to my email, and then later wink me? Makes no sense.

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Middle-Aged Pittsburgh Men Beware - she’s not for real

BlueEyes1962 09 Jan 2008 | : Scams

If you were a 44-year old man, would you believe this wink was genuine?match.com scammerMost guys instinctively know there is something fishy about this. Young beautiful women don’t need to troll the Internet for men many states away to find dates.But what is you add a few years, a few flaws, and slightly more natural looking photos. If you were a man, would you be excited if you got a wink from this 32-year old woman?scam :scamHere’s the profile:

I am a girl who loves to laugh and have a good time. I am able to wear all of the hats appropriately! I am classy, poised, yet wild, and adventurous. I enjoy spending time with my friends and family, dining out, being outdoors, and finding new things to experience!!I don’t make my bed every morning, I love to cook, take midnight swims, and long walks, but these are soooo much better when accompanied by a great man.

It has been quite awhile since my last relationship as I have been busy with work, but I’m at the point now where I am ready to get out there and have some serious fun. I’m hoping I can meet someone who can show me a great time as I assure you, I will show YOU a wonderful time as well!

Another thing, considering I’m not a member here yet, it may be difficult to reach me until I become one, otherwise I can be reached at another place called, seekintimacy. With that said, hopefully what I’ve written gives you a good idea of who I am and what I’m about.

This happened to my friend Bill on Match.com. He was curious enough to go to seekintimacy.com. In order to view the girl’s profile and email her, he would have to sign up at $25/month, and he decided not to. But Bill did create a username and password - and supplied the site with his email address.

Suddenly he was inundated with winks and emails from young, beautiful women on seekintimacy.com. This was interesting because he had no photo or profile up on the site. At first he thought it might be his clever username that was attracting attention, but he got suspicious and did some research.

I bet you can guess what the scam is.

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