Helping Her Ex Improve His Match Profile
Posted by BlueEyes1962 on 10 Dec 2007 at 01:58 pm | Tagged as: Not As Advertised, The Ex
One great thing about Internet dating is that you can very quickly meet a lot of people and are exposed to a wide range of human experiences. Divorced men with kids are usually in some contact with their ex’s and one quickly determines the relationship and it can be all over the map.
Sue has an especially amicable relationship with her ex, Stan. They talk several times a week on the phone, and he comes to the house Monday evenings. When they were married, Monday evenings were family game days – they’d eat dinner together as a family, and then play a round of Scrabble or a card game.
When they separated this January, they decided to keep the tradition. Although the kids go to his bachelor pad one at a time on the week-ends (it’s only got 2 bedrooms and they have 3 kids) during the week most of his time with the kids is spent in the family home, which is now Sue’s house.
This works for them and they claim it is the least disruptive option for the kids, all teenagers. But this strikes me and many of their dates as very weird. Sue tells me that men who have an equally friendly relationship with their ex-wives are fine with it – even relieved that they found someone who will not be jealous when they spend time with their kids and ex together. But guys with bitter divorces can’t understand – Sue has seen had men get very disturbed when she explains their arrangement, tell her they are not comfortable with this at all. Many of Sue’s friends think Stan is taking advantage of Sue, and that she is being too accommodating.
Stan is much more strategic than Sue – he would never reveal this at a first coffee. He dated a woman without children in her mid 30′s and he didn’t tell her that family time in Upper St. Clair with the kids often also included the (soon-to-be-ex) wife. But after 4 months the issue did come up and caused problems and suspicions, and then she found out he is separated and not divorced as advertised. Now Stan finds himself back on Match.com again.
Which is how Sue offered to help her Ex improve his Match.com profile. He’s back up and hasn’t been getting the response he hoped for, and asked Sue for advice. Sue first suggested going for women his own age – but he did not like that idea. Then she said that nicer photos would help. He asked her if she could take some next time he was over, and Sue said yes. I thought she was crazy and I asked her why she would do this.
Sue said, “I’m good with a camera, and an expert at Photoshop, so why not? Stan’s adjusted his schedule to stay with the children for the week-end several times when I wanted to get away. It’s been in both our best interests, and the kids, to get along.”
I think, after a year of separation, their lives are way too tangled still. Sue thinks she knows what she is doing. She wonders why such a friendly relationship with an ex raises suspicions with potential dates.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
Cooperate with your soon-to-be-ex to help your kids – sure, but why help him with his internet dating? Surely you have better things to do with your time. And he’d probably learn more from a conversation with another woman (or man) than from you; I’m guessing that you and he have already been over every subject ad nauseum.
When my marriage broke up, the best thing for me was to take my mind off my ex, get out of old, unhealthy habits with her, and get to know myself again. I did things with friends, new dates, and by myself — anyone but her.
Like the song in “South Pacific”, you need to Brush That Man Right Out of Your Hair!
Old habits die hard – and it only took ma a half hour to take the photos, crop them, and touch them up. All my girlfriends get mad at me too – especially the divorced ones, but I need to figure it out for myself my own way.
I have the same kind of relationship with my ex. We have been apart five years. Living in different states for two. But men have an issue with it still. My philosophy is that if a man can’t handle it, he ain’t worth it. I take it to mean he’s carrying around too much of his own baggage and projecting it onto me. And if I get into a serious relationship with him, and my/his children get involved? It tells a lot about how it would end, if it did. And I won’t drag my children through that.
Not worth it.
Thanks ‘C” – I find that the more bitter the divorce, the more upset people are with my relationship with my ex (this includes both men and women). The guys who get along with their ex’s have no problem at all. The ones who have contentious relationships seem to want me to have the same.
hi,
in response to your question, people who are single or divorced don’t like to date separated people who are still living their lives in a twisted facsimile of their former marriage
the only difference between you and your ex, and dating married people is the opportunity for sex and occasional companionship without the shadow of adultery.
until you both lead separate lives there is no space for a real relationship, so anyone interested in more than sex has to move on.
dated a guy like this last year, will never do it again.
It seems to me that as long as you are honest about your relationship, it’s up to the other person to judge whether they want to get involved with you or not. But your response might help Sue understand why a friendly relationship with an ex raises suspicions with potential dates. And from what I hear, a lot of people aren’t being honest.
I know some people avoid dated separated people, period, for just the reasons you stated. But since I’m still just separated myself I can’t really do that without being a hypocrite.
Glad you weren’t offended, no offense meant. Firmly believe that being ready for a relationship doesn’t mean ready for what you want when you want it. People who are dating, owe it to potential partners to clearly state who they are, what they want, what they don’t want.
The real bummer about Sue’s Sunday thing, is that most adults want to have weekends with their partners and while understanding of work and family obligations, most people won’t want to give up an entire day of “togetherness” for a former family tradition every Sunday.
A few hours every Sunday, maybe, but no one in love wants their time cut off every Sunday am. Lazy Sundays in front of a fire before the week starts, coffee together, errands, all of these are relationship builders.
I don’t know you, but I am siding with the girlfriends who don’t like Sue helping her ex find new women. Has to be demeaning to know that he wants a younger, freer model. Sue gave her youth and her freedom to yher marriage, think she should get a gold star for that.
All of that being said, have nothing in theory against “Stan”, even though I guess I am too old and too tied down for the almost 50 year old playboy set, hmmm, maybe there’s a reason my boyfriend is 35. What do they say about not teaching old dogs new tricks? Always wanted a puppy when I was little…… dreams do come true